Elvira Smit

Photography: Quantity versus Quality

Monday 4 January 2021, 20:10 by | 6,450 views | 14 comments

This article was translated from Dutch with the help of AI. Read the original.

Every year, I look at the number of photos I have taken. It is roughly a measure of how active I have been.

But does it say anything about the quality of my photos? Can you still talk about quality when you take 600 photos in one day? This week, I read two things that answered those questions.

My score this year


In Lightroom, I can see that I have taken 7,581 photos this year. On average, I take between 7,000 and 10,000 photos, with holidays accounting for a sizeable chunk of that number.

This year was different. We did go away, but mostly in our own country.

This year, I set up Lightroom differently for the first time. I split everything into private and project photos. I have taken 4,913 photos in the latter category so far. In short, I go out more often with the aim of taking photos.

Cat on the promenade in Scheveningen


Is taking lots of photos a good thing?


But okay, 4,913 photos. Is that good? Or am I losing focus? I often think about this. Sometimes I wonder whether I should just go somewhere and limit myself to taking only 10 photos that day.

But even the thought of it makes me shudder. I look through my camera. And at home, I am often glad that I photographed something from different angles.

Anyway, this week I read two things that relate to my question about whether it is good to take so many photos.

First, I read something about so-called divergent and convergent phases in your creative life:

1. Do you think divergently or convergently?


You are either in a divergent phase, in which you take lots of photos and explore possibilities, or in a convergent phase, in which you make choices, go through your archive and create photo series.

Those phases alternate, if all goes well. If they do not, you might need to get that process started in yourself. vrolijk

Making choices


2. Without walking, you do not forge a path


The second piece I read was a short passage from a longer poem:

By walking, one makes a path
and looking back
sees the trail


~ Antonio Machado

In short, you have to create in order to develop. You have to keep moving, even if you have no idea where you are going. Just go, just take photos. Only then can you form an opinion after some time.

You do that by looking over your shoulder at the path you have forged, and a scrapbook is a great help with that, by the way.

You might decide to turn right. But you can only make that decision once you have started walking.

Cat walking away in Scheveningen


Returning to the question of whether it is a good thing that I take thousands of photos each year: yes, provided I also do something with those photos: edit them, select them, keep a scrapbook and "dance" around my subject. The more I do that, the closer I get to developing my own photographic style and projects.

So I am happy to carry on with those numbers.

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Elvira Smit

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14 comments

  1. paul
    paul wrote on Tuesday 5 January 2021 at 11:57  | reply

    Dear Elvira,
    I think the choice also depends on the situation, busy or not busy, landscape photography vs. action photography, etc...

    If you have plenty of time for the composition and to carefully check all the settings, then you can indeed achieve your intended goal with fewer photos. But if, for example, you start with sports photography, you usually don't even have time to check your photos on the spot. Then it's normal that you take more photos. At tourist spots, it's very easy to say that you should just take up another position to get a better camera angle. But sometimes you're also limited in time there, or there are too many people. And then you're quickly inclined to take a series of photos a bit faster and then, at home, calmly pick out the best photos and edit them if necessary. If you photograph in RAW, you do that anyway. So to answer your question: I wouldn't feel guilty if I came home with a few too many photos. If you can filter out one good one, very few people will ask you how many photos you took for it. If you enjoy shooting photos, then go for it.
    Sometimes people say that you should also take the time to enjoy the situation, separate from your camera. That may well be true, but if you're constantly looking for a good photo, my experience is that I usually have seen more than, for example, my wife, who casually walks through the landscape, the city or the museum. Here too, just do what you yourself enjoy.

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  2. ifiamminghi
    Profile ifiamminghi wrote on Tuesday 5 January 2021 at 12:00  | reply

    If you had experienced the analog era (I suspect you are too young!) then you would have learned to take just that one right photo at the right moment. In the digital era one can afford to just fire away...
    The truth will probably lie somewhere in between again. With (fast-)moving subjects it can be very useful to take many photos in burst mode in order to keep one (or a few) good ones, for landscapes one photo should suffice ?
    The question of how many photos you took is actually not relevant, how many good photos you took all the more so. And somewhere, it seems to me that the ratio of good photos to the number of photos taken is a nice figure to demonstrate the quality (and accuracy) of the photographer (perhaps a bit simplistic...).
    ...also don't forget that you have to delete all those photos you took too many of, or are they all saved on a NAS as well and in the cloud and....
    Taking focused photos, with a plan, the required number, not too many... many a photographer should make a little project out of that!

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  3. Bernard
    Bernard wrote on Tuesday 5 January 2021 at 12:47  | reply

    A recognizable problem with many nuances. Perhaps there are two questions everyone should first find an answer to. 1) What do you want to achieve with photography? 2) Do you want to capture something or do you want to create a work of art?

    In the present time with high-resolution system cameras and high-resolution smartphones with cameras, it is a different story than in the days of analogue photography.

    In the analogue days, you worked with expensive film and needed time to have your film developed. In the digital age, both arguments have disappeared.

    Compare a roll of KB film (35mm) with 36 exposures with a 64GB memory card with around 4000 exposures in price and you will soon be convinced that there is a very substantial difference in the cost of the material.

    What was good about the analogue era was that, because of the cost, you were forced to choose the right composition and exposure. Taking ten photos and then deciding at home which one was the best was not an option. The advantage was that the first photo was usually good.

    Very strange is that I still experience this now. Taking a photo of a subject and then, just to be sure, trying a number of other viewpoints and settings still results in the first one usually being good for me. So I am economical with the shooting material.

    As already said, that necessity no longer exists nowadays. Going out for an afternoon and taking 100 to 250 photos (usually with the smartphone at 12MB) is not uncommon. It can be explained with the slogan: Not because it has to, but because it can. The only question is: what do you do with all those photos?

    On TV you often see people at major occasions taking photos with their smartphones and then going home to look at what they saw that day. I have my own thoughts about that. That mega mountain of photos may be viewed one more time and otherwise they just take up space in the memory. But why worry when it is 128GB.

    The great advantage of the smartphone is convenience. You always have it with you and taking a photo is a matter of aiming and clicking. With such a photo, there is nothing for the photographer to set and it is only about the composition and, for the advanced photographer, the angle of the lighting.

    The system camera remains unsurpassed. Yes, I must honestly admit that I work more with my iPhone-11Pro than I could ever have imagined. Still, the Canon EOS 5Dmk4 goes in the bag when serious work needs to be done.

    I often photograph landscapes and cityscapes and of course nothing beats the Canon for that.

    Perhaps the most plausible comment is: you have to move with the times... vrolijk

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  4. Chris
    Chris wrote on Tuesday 5 January 2021 at 12:51  | reply

    Agreed. In the analog era, with my financial limitations (developing and printing rolls of film), I was on a ration of 10 a day while traveling. Then you look a lot and search and plan until you have it, or go back tomorrow. After that, wait for developing and choose which ones to have printed. Nowadays, a lot of photos. I think that many photos teach you a lot, different settings, different light, etc. With a lot of experience, that shouldn't be necessary anymore?? You gain experience by doing a lot. There is nothing wrong with that

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  5. Kirsten
    Kirsten wrote on Tuesday 5 January 2021 at 13:09  | reply

    You write so nicely, Elvira.
    You have a clear vision, 😉despite your meanderings.
    In this digital age, it is indeed many times easier to take lots of photos, view them quickly and edit them yourself. I also experienced the analogue era (damn, I’m really starting to get old, aren’t I🙈), and then you really are careful with taking your precious photos. That analogue era shaped me, and I suspect many others along with me, by learning to look, having an idea beforehand of what you roughly want to achieve, carrying out your idea, and then came the waiting and asking yourself whether it had even worked at all.
    Personally, I am grateful for both the analogue and digital eras and still enjoy all the moments when I view the world through the (viewfinder) lens of my camera.

    I read your article with great pleasure, thank you!

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  6. Elvira Smit
    Profile Elvira Smit wrote on Tuesday 5 January 2021 at 14:03  | reply

    Nice to see that my musings have given rise to these comments! That is exactly the goal: thinking about how you work yourself, and why that sometimes does and sometimes doesn’t work. In the end, there is (fortunately) no one-size-fits-all recipe for everyone.

    @Paul: Good addition. It indeed also very much depends on the situation in which you are photographing (changing quickly or not at all) and the type of photography you practice.

    @Bernard nicely adds to that that it is good to ask yourself questions beforehand. If the goal is not clear, there is a greater chance that you will be left with a useless (digital) mountain of photos that you will never look at again.

    @ifiamminghi: I experienced the tail end of the analogue era, but it was too short to really learn from it. I can imagine that, as @Kirsten writes, it is very educational to have to make choices beforehand.

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  7. hubert haenen
    hubert haenen wrote on Tuesday 5 January 2021 at 14:32  | reply

    By limiting yourself, you save a lot of selection time. Too many photos, too many emails, etc. limit your quality time. But it remains difficult.

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  8. Mac
    Mac wrote on Tuesday 5 January 2021 at 14:37  | reply

    I also experienced the analog era. And back then everything was better, right?
    I don't know, I spent a fortune on rolls back then. But that's also because I did a lot of sports photography, and then you simply shoot more. And as far as that goes I'm happy with digital. You miss less action because of, for example, changing rolls and not shooting because you don't have enough rolls.
    with regular photography too I shoot more than analog. Yes I take time for composition and light and can make that one photo a good photo. But why would I chain myself? I make that one good photo by taking my time. But because I'm not tied to the 36 photos on a roll I can also experiment. What if I tilt it, what if I under/overexpose.

    And so there are many more situations that mean you come home with many more photos than in the analog era (HDR, Panorama, focus stacking).
    so it's too easy to say, in the analog era……..

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  9. Fon van de Riet
    Fon van de Riet wrote on Tuesday 5 January 2021 at 15:31  | reply

    Ah, the comparison between analog and digital....... Expensive or cheap? Back then I worked with a Nikon F2 Photomic, bought for Fl. 800. When digital cameras of comparable quality came along, they suddenly were gigantically more expensive than the analog ones. So there is more to say about costs than just the price of the rolls of film.
    I agree that it is now simpler to shoot lots of photos. You can easily delete the lesser ones, after all. And if you are in the experimentation phase I think you generally take lots of photos. If you know what it should become there are fewer and you even deliberately don't take certain photos. Divergent or convergent, are you working with a precisely defined goal or not? Do you impose limitations on yourself before you start? Are you going to take a landscape photo and still take your macro lens and extension tubes with you or do you limit yourself to the wide-angle lens. Those are, in my opinion, the underlying questions in your nice article/

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  10. Evert
    Evert wrote on Tuesday 5 January 2021 at 17:10  | reply

    Haha, how nice that many people share the same experience, Elvira.
    My problem was the same but now I make somewhat more conscious choices by determining the position directly, but because of the enthusiasm I also sometimes go too far.
    In the days of rolls I never took 1 but always 2 of the same type of photos and why? simply because back then I was much too afraid that the photo might have failed. Back to these days, by taking a lot of photos at different locations I have learned to be more critical because having to look through a lot of photos every time that I then all find equally good and equally nice even though they look alike was still a bit too much work.
    But still, just keep shooting and you will see that it will naturally become less. You will surely start making a faster choice of position, at least, that's what I think.
    Have lots of fun photographing.

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  11. Paulussie
    Profile Paulussie wrote on Tuesday 5 January 2021 at 17:47  | reply

    Nice article.
    The question at the beginning about whether it's a good thing if you take 600 photos in a day is a good opener.
    Recently read a piece by someone who had taken hundreds of
    "Photos" of his little dog in one afternoon. Can you really still call that photography, rather registration. I think you would be better off using that term then.
    I can imagine that professionals who take sports photos make a lot of shots in the hope of finding the good one among them, but as an amateur and professional who wants to make those good shots, you will limit yourself sooner.
    I'm currently scanning my analogue photos, and over the past few days I had my 1991 holiday in Normandy and Paris in the scanner. Two weeks, 290 b/w shots, and a few slide and color negative "rolls". And everything is on them.
    My last holiday on the costas, digitally, produced about a similar number.
    With such numbers, you can also still look at them when you're back. If you take 500 a day, you'll never look at them again, too much hassle.

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  12. wendy
    wendy wrote on Tuesday 5 January 2021 at 20:46  | reply

    What a great explanation. I read the title and thought, darn, I must be a bad photographer. But no, thank you for the confirmation knipoog There’s nothing I like better than taking photos of emotions, details, overview shots on an outing etc. and then making a selection, editing them in my own style and then keeping everything neatly in a yearbook. For my yearbooks, it’s always so nice that you can insert a variety of photos to fully experience the atmosphere all over again.

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  13. Peter
    Peter wrote on Tuesday 5 January 2021 at 22:26  | reply

    It also depends on what you photograph. If I go out to photograph a landscape or in a city, I am selective and usually come home with few, but generally good photos. But if I photograph a vintage car tour (I usually take panning shots of that) then it is on burst mode and it happens that I come home with 1500 or 2000 photos. A lousy job to sort through, but I want/need to have at least one successful photo of every participant from the left and right side. With 150 participants, that means at least 300 photos anyway. Just to indicate that one type of photography turns out very differently from another type. You also do portrait photography much more selectively. And everything has its own charm.

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  14. Donald Willemsen
    Profile Donald Willemsen wrote on Tuesday 5 January 2021 at 23:26  | reply

    I have always taken a lot of photos. In the analogue era, when I had a model shoot on a Saturday afternoon, I would easily fill 2 slide films and 2 b&w films (36 exposures per film). So that makes 144 photos.
    Now I photograph digitally and take even more photos than in the analogue era.
    Suppose I go on holiday for a week, I can easily come home with 1000 photos. My wife takes photos too, but I’ll leave her out of it for now.
    I often take multiple shots of the same subject, but each time with different settings, focal lengths, viewpoints, different cameras. I always have 2 cameras with me.
    It’s also fun to photograph a particular subject at different times. Every type of daylight has its own charms. The different types of weather can also lead to surprising results with the same subject.
    If I have taken 100 photos and there are 1 or 2 really good ones among them, I’m already very satisfied.

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