
Holiday Photos with Tourists in the Frame
Monday 9 December 2024, 20:10 by Nando Harmsen | 3,730 views | 19 commentsThis article was translated from Dutch with the help of AI. Read the original.
Are you going on holiday? As a photographer, you naturally want to take beautiful photos of that holiday. The question is, what kind of photos will they be? Do you want photos suitable for a travel brochure? Or do you want photos of the holiday?
I regularly see advice on taking the perfect holiday photos. All kinds of tips are given for photographing tourist attractions without the tourists. A good example is St Mark's Square in Venice.

Then the digital tricks come out. With AI-generated removals to make sure no people appear in the frame. It does not matter whether you are looking at the busy St Mark's Square in Venice or somewhere else touristy. Apparently, we do not want tourists.

Once you have removed all the people from the frame, you are left with a photo of a location that could go straight into a tourist brochure. As someone put it so nicely, you might as well buy the brochure.
There is one problem, though. When you were there, all the other tourists were there too. So that empty photo without the other people is not what you experienced on holiday. Why would you want to change reality?

When I am on that kind of tourist holiday and visit the popular places that hordes of people flock to, I want to show that. I want my holiday photos to show what it was like. I do not want to pretend I was the only one there by digitally removing everyone.

In my opinion, that is the whole essence of holiday photos. Showing what your holiday was like. In my opinion, those are the perfect holiday photos. Not pictures that have been painstakingly cleared of people.

It is different when you are on a photography trip and looking for the most beautiful photos to put on the wall. I understand that you do not want people in the frame then. You also only head out when the light is at its best, and those are often the moments when most people sit down for dinner.

On the other hand, a visit to the Stokkur geyser in Iceland, where entire busloads of tourists gather, is more accurately represented by a photo with those people in it. Why would you not show that?
Of course, everyone has to decide for themselves. But when I am on holiday and walking along the walls of San Marino in the middle of Italy, it is perfectly fine to show that it was a holiday, with all the other tourists in the frame.

About the author
Nando Harmsen has been photographing for more than 40 years. He specialises in wedding photography and landscape photography. Nando also gives talks, workshops, masterclasses and photo trips, and regularly reviews new and interesting equipment.
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19 comments
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Rene wrote on Tuesday 10 December 2024 at 11:23 | replyI totally agree with you, it would come across as very unnatural if there were no people in it, it makes the photo lifelike
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Adelheid Smitt wrote on Tuesday 10 December 2024 at 12:04 | replyI think there is a middle ground. Tourists do indeed belong in some photos, but that one woman with that big hat and bright orange coat who is prominently in your shot, you'd still rather get rid of. I think it's perfectly fine to have people in the frame, but they shouldn't be so large that they draw all the attention to themselves, while you actually want to show St. Mark's Square. So in my case I remove the distractions, the rest of the people can stay.
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Dick de Roos wrote on Tuesday 10 December 2024 at 12:24 | replyI have removed a few (a couple of) people from the image a few times, because they were distracting for the picture.
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Incidentally, not at the Stokkur in Iceland, because I was there early enough not to have any people in the image.
The same was the case at Old Faithful in Yellowstone. We were early enough to watch it erupt with a few Americans. Later in the day it was busy there and I also captured that difference in images.
Removing people from St. Mark's Square is nonsense, because you know it is busy there.
Incidentally, it is about the experience and not whether someone happens to be in the image.
But sometimes having someone in the image is distracting (to me). And then removing them is a consideration. -

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Guido Bellens wrote on Tuesday 10 December 2024 at 12:29 | replyHello Nando,
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Sometimes it's really too busy and you don't have the chance to wait a bit until there are fewer people. Then I remove a few tourists, especially those people wearing something fluorescent. But sometimes it's also useful to have a few people in the photo, that gives an idea of the size or proportions, a good example is your photo of Stokkur. Without them you have no idea how high this geyser shoots. -
Hans Oosterholt wrote on Tuesday 10 December 2024 at 13:56 | replyIn the first photo I do find the leaning tower somewhat distracting. (Number of) tourists are part of reality ...
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Cauwenbergh Rudy wrote on Tuesday 10 December 2024 at 13:59 | replyit bothers me more that the buildings in the photo aren't straight the people are there otherwise it wouldn't be natural without people
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Donald Willemsen wrote on Tuesday 10 December 2024 at 14:56 | replyI find removing people from a photo of a tourist attraction unrealistic. What I do remove is someone who happens to walk into the frame just as you take the photo. Such a person is usually on the left or right of your frame and I remove them.
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What I have also done is use a long shutter speed. That works well when people are moving or don't stand still for too long. By the way, it only works if there aren't too many people in that place. I use that method when I'm purely interested in a particular building alongside which there is always some movement.
If I want to photograph a historic street without people, I wait for a moment when there is no one there.
So I almost never remove people with the help of AI. If you do, I'll bet you that when you look closely, you can see the removal at 100% -

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Donald Willemsen wrote on Tuesday 10 December 2024 at 16:40 | replyNando, that is indeed also a solution, but sometimes you can wait forever and I don't wait for that. If you're travelling with someone who happens not to care much about photography and is satisfied with a 'snapshot', you're annoying if you want to move on to another location.
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I can tell you one thing: you don't want to take me along on a photo trip in a group. Then you experience me as an impediment to the goal of your trip as the guide.
So waiting for the right moment is not always possible, all the more so because you don't know whether the right moment will come soon. On top of that, I always want to take someone else into account and that sometimes comes at my own expense. Not the most ideal picture, but afterwards I can make the most ideal picture of it without doing too much harm to the original -
Paul wrote on Tuesday 10 December 2024 at 18:04 | replyHi Nando,
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I take the same approach, sometimes people need to be included, another time I’d rather not.
I have no experience with AI, but the clone stamp and patience help too. -
ime roffel wrote on Wednesday 11 December 2024 at 18:46 | replyI don't have an editing program . Because I never edit photos. I don't think it fits when you edit photos . For me, it is no longer natural . Beautifying photos is no longer really real for me . If you have to edit all your images with an expensive camera, you're not doing it right . I keep it the way I photographed it .
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Nando
wrote on Wednesday 11 December 2024 at 19:23
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I want to point out that photos are always edited. Without editing, you cannot show a photo. Jpeg in the camera is a photo that has been edited in the camera, according to the choices of the camera manufacturer.
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Photographing in jpeg is comparable to a ready-made Polaroid photo. In raw, photographing is like it was with negative film. You developed the photo in the darkroom, the darkroom. Now we develop the photo in the lightroom, Lightroom.
But it can be your choice to photograph directly in jpeg. To say that you are not doing the right thing if you edit your images is not correct. -
Donald Willemsen wrote on Wednesday 11 December 2024 at 19:49 | replyAbsolutely correct, Nando. In the analogue era, editing was also done (developing and printing), and by choosing certain chemicals you could influence the result, and you could edit negatives with special pencils, etc. For many, that was not feasible and the roll went to the processing lab.
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Digital photography makes it possible to do all those edits yourself. You can also take multiple photos of one subject.
In the past, you had to be sparing with the roll because having it developed and printed was not cheap.
Photos were also 'embellished' in the analogue era. Ime Roffel's argument shows short-sightedness and not looking beyond the end of one's nose.
But anyway, of course everyone is allowed to have their own opinion. I actually enjoy beautifully editing the photo from the camera without doing violence to the photo. Doing that myself is precisely part of my hobby. I don't want to leave that to the camera's software. -
Jack wrote on Saturday 14 December 2024 at 10:11 | replyWhat I sometimes do when it's crowded somewhere and I'm interested in a building where someone keeps standing annoyingly in front of it in different places is take several photos, then place them on top of each other as layers in Photoshop and use layer masks to remove the distractions, revealing the part from a layer underneath that I actually want to see.
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